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Boris Johnson surprises Steven Bartlett with 'it's not my job' remark
The former prime minister was mayor of London when he decided to lead the campaign to leave the EU in 2016.
Speaking on the Diary of a CEO podcast last Thursday, Johnson claimed it was never the responsibility of Brexit supporters to draw up a new plan for their lives outside the EU.
Today I'm sitting down with former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson, for his first long-form podcast.
He was the 55th Prime Minister, leading the country through 3 of the biggest crises of the last century; Brexit, Covid and war in Ukraine. He is one of the most pic.twitter.com/kgPeub5oDT
Steven Bartlett (@StevenBartlett) October 10, 2024
Bartlett told the former MP: You almost disconnect from the fact that there had to be a plan associated with the decision [to leave the EU].
You almost seem angry that people expected you to come up with a plan, even though you led the campaign.
The interviewer then cited Johnson's new memoir, Unleashed: At no point in this campaign have we [Boris and Michael Gove] discussing a future leave-based government because we didn't imagine we had to be in charge of government.
The governments stated that their policy was to implement the referendum result. It was a referendum, not an election.
We had no plan for government, no plan for negotiation, because that was not our job, and to the extent that the following days were as chaotic as they were, it is quite exasperating that we let's be blamed.
Boris Johnson baffled interviewer Steven Bartlett by suggesting he was never tasked with developing a post-EU referendum plan. pic.twitter.com/OHm6y9un6L
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Bartlett said it was clear this was a huge problem, putting his hands on his head in bewilderment.
Johnson just replied: But why?
Referring to then-Prime Minister David Cameron's decision to resign following the defeat of his Remain campaign in 2016, Johnson continued: There is a fundamental misconception.
When the government decides to put something to the people in a referendum, it doesn't say: oh, if it goes against a particular position, it's going to disappear.
He said: Many European leaders held and opposed a referendum on the EU, but they did not disappear from the scene.
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Johnson also noted that if the Brexit campaign had been fought to form the next government, people would have thought their arguments were based on advancing their political careers and not on the EU issue.
Bartlett responded: If those in charge say we shouldn't leave, there's no good plan, shouldn't we have listened to them?
The former Prime Minister replied: No, because I thought they were wrong.
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