Trump accuses Gavin Newsom of being responsible for wildfires, convicted in secret trialExBulletin

President-elect Donald Trump is fighting with California Governor Gavin Newsom as wildfires burn and was condemned this week.

SCOTT SIMON, HOST:

President Biden made a major disaster declaration in response to the California wildfires. President-elect Donald Trump blamed the state's Democratic governor's response on his environmental policies. NPR's Ron Elving joins us. Ron, thanks for being with us.

RON ELVING, BYLINE: Nice to be with you, Scott.

SIMON: Trump said on Truth Social that Gov. Newsom refused to sign a water declaration that would have sent water from Northern California to other parts of the state to protect fish species . There was no such statement on water. Why start a public feud with the governor of California at this moment of crisis?

ELVING: Well, indeed. And why call this Governor Newsom – at least online – Governor New Scum? But first, we should say that these catastrophic fires we just heard about hit the country like few stories do. What we see on TV features some of the country's most recognizable, even legendary, grounds – dreamland, for many Americans. On the political side, it is first worth noting that the outgoing president has received so little attention when it comes to sending aid to victims. But the new president attracted a lot of attention by accusing California Democrats of failing to provide water, saying they were instead focused on policy goals unrelated to fighting fires.

We now know that there was a problem on the fire line for a while Tuesday evening: hydrants went dry in some areas. The water pressure was dropping. Newsom himself has called for an investigation into this, and the governor also invited Trump to California to see for himself. But the idea of ​​a responsible fishing or diversity program, it may seem fanciful, but it's a compelling narrative for some audiences. It excites people. This generates clicks.

SIMON: Yesterday, Donald Trump was convicted in New York in a secret trial – no jail time, no other punishment. There is, of course, the notoriety of being the first convicted felon to be inaugurated president. What do you think of the division in the Supreme Court – 5-4 split – refusal to stop sentencing?

ELVING: There are still chances of shape-shifting within the current majority. There are times when the three judges appointed by Trump and the three judges appointed by presidents named Bush who are still there, that's six and it's a real phalanx, but it's, Scott, all the time. And in this particular case, Chief Justice John Roberts, a George W. Bush appointee, seemed unimpressed with Trump's lawyers insisting that this would cause serious damage to Trump or the presidency. This is what they were against. This conviction does not seem to have had that impression on John Roberts. Judge Barrett's vote, the latest of Trump's additions to the court, was perhaps more surprising. It should be added that there is also an ongoing fight over the release of the special counsel's report on Trump's role in the Jan. 6 attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. This week, an appeals court The federal government refused to block the release of the report, so we could see it very soon.

SIMON: State funeral for President Jimmy Carter at the National Cathedral Thursday – all former presidents in attendance and a eulogy delivered by President Biden. What stood out to you, Ron?

ELVING: It was a moving ceremony, with wonderful music. So much has been said about Carter's personal characteristics – his relentlessness and drive – his ambitious, even impossible goals, in contrast to his personal choice to live quite humbly at home in rural Georgia; also, the affection of his peers – allies, like Walter Mondale, his vice president, but also rivals, like former President Gerald Ford, the Republican whom Carter defeated to take the White House in 1976. Mondale and Ford are died years ago. , but they left eulogies for their sons at Carter's funeral.

And then, in the eulogy delivered by President Biden at the end, it was impossible not to notice the feeling of shared sadness – the bond between these two one-term Democratic presidents who had known each other for more than half a year. century and have seen so much history together. and who knew how closely they would likely be linked in popular memory.

SIMONExBulletin's Ron Elving. Thank you so much.

ELVING: Thank you, Scott.

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