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Answers from Florida and Illinois to the Trump administrationExBulletin

A look at Florida and Illinois shows how the country's often polarized state policy legislatures react to the Trump administration. States have a lot of power over what is done.
Ayesha Rascoe, host:
For weeks, the news has been dominated by the executive decrees of President Donald Trump and the big changes he has tried to make, but there are many changes that the president cannot make at the federal level. On a whole series of questions, President Trump needs the help of the governments of the States to adopt the change. And we are going to watch two states with two different approaches: Florida and Illinois. Larry Kaplow of NPR, publisher of our States team, is there to throw us. Hi, Larry.
Larry Kaplow, byline: Hi, Ayesha.
Rascoe: What role do states play to help or hinder the agenda of a president?
Kaplow: right. Well, the powers of the state have been really cooked in the American Constitution from the start, and we see how they exercise this powers now. Take Trump's call on mass deportations. There are not enough federal agents to make them in the figures he is looking for. They need the help of the sheriffs and police services, but the federal government cannot order the local police to do so. States governments, however, and governors can adopt laws that force local police to help things such as detentions and the application of immigration, and they can adopt laws that prohibit cities to have sanctuary laws that limit what local police can do to help federal agents. We also see democratic states adopting laws that protect laws on the sanctuary of cities. I will emphasize that most of the state legislatures are controlled by one party or the other, and they go to these different directions.
Rascoe: And we will hear a few states now, starting with Mawa Iqbal from Illinois of the WBez member station.
Mawa Iqbal, Byline: In Illinois, legislators were not shy as to their disdain for President Donald Trump. During a budgetary address last month, Democratic Governor JB Pritzker compared Trump's recent decrees at the end of democracy in pre-war Germany.
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JB Pritzker: The seed which has become a dictatorship in Europe there is a life has not arrived overnight. It started with crazy Germans of inflation and the search for someone to blame. I look with a disturbing fear what is happening in our country right now.
IQBAL: In the Legislative Assembly, the Democrats adopted resolutions condemning Trump's White House for retreating the measures of Dei and to forgive those linked to the riots of January 6. The Republicans left a noisy session, and Democratic President Chris Welch has exploded.
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Chris Welch: They should be here to denounce fascism. We cannot be silent. We have to get up. Talk. Talk.
IQBAL: The resolutions are symbolic, but the Democrats plan to spend more money on dei initiatives in education, even if Trump has threatened with federal funding reductions. They seek to strengthen sanctuary policies and even finance a health care program for adults and the elderly without legal status in the United States
Steven Schwinn is a professor of constitutional law at the University of Illinois Chicago, and he says that these are areas where states can really assert themselves.
Steven Schwinn: Protection of rights in state law and in the constitution of the State as did the Illinois, it is the right measures for the legislators and civil servants who oppose Trump policies.
IQBAL: Trump lost the Illinois of more than 11 percentage points, and the Democrats have a supermajority in the legislative assembly. This contrasts with states nearby and more uniformly divided such as Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan, where legislators and certain governors have been more careful about Trump policies or even favored them. In Illinois, the Republicans are in the super minority and say that the state budget is already directed to a deficit of $ 3 billion due to democratic expenses. The representative of the State Blaine Wilhour described their initiatives as in the Marxist ideology of the schools.
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Blaine Wilhour: It is a fed division, punished excellence and weakened our schools. And now, the people in charge of our education system – non -elected bureaucrats – think they can simply ignore this directive. They think they can just do what they want. We will see. Paging President Trump, we have a problem in Illinois.
IQBAL: And now we are turning to my colleague REGAN MCCARTHY in the Capitol Building in Tallahassee for what is happening in Florida.
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REGAN MCCARTHY, byline: the occupied legislative session only leaves here, where we are not far from the large body of water that the state legislators of the State no longer call the Gulf of Mexico.
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Joe Gruuters: The name has changed. It is now the Gulf of America.
McCarthy: The senator of the Republican State Joe Gruuters is at the origin of a bill which, according to him, will line up the Florida with an executive decree of the Trump administration by reversing the Gulf in state law and in future documents purchased by schools.
Gruuters: Listen, we want our children to have the correct names of everything that goes ahead, and that's just a way to do it.
McCarthy: And it is only one of the bills, legislative controlled by the Republican, recently mentioned, as jockey political players to show their support and their loyalty to President Donald Trump and the agenda of his administration. There is also a measure to open the way to Trump to build a presidential library in the state. Another bill would prevent local governments from adding fluoride to public water – something that Trump's health and social services secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. previously done for. Then there is legislation recently adopted in Florida to repress illegal immigration.
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Gruuters: This bill was still from the start to work with the president, President Trump, his decrees to push his program. In the end, he deserves credit for all of this.
McCarthy: It is again Gruuters, a long -standing supporter of Trump – something that the senator of the Republican State, Randy Fine, can bear fruit in Florida.
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Randy Fine: Now I showed this evening what loyalty to Donald Trump meant.
McCarthy: The Fine Senator presents himself with the support of the president during a special election for the headquarters of the congress left open when Trump then hit the representative of Mike Waltz to be his national security advisor. Fine made his declaration to his colleagues on the Senate soil just after winning the Republican primary for the headquarters. It is widely supposed to win the special elections in April.
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Very well: my reward for this loyalty is that I go to the congress.
McCarthy: Trump's approval weighs heavily in the state, but certainly not for each Floridian.
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McCarthy: earlier this year, hundreds of people gathered at the State Capitol, shouting and waving panels to protest against the president and his administration. Among them, the student of Florida State University, 19, Madalyn Propst. She does not agree with the president's recent decrees.
Madalyn Propst: Yes, I hope he will be charged with the unconstitutionality of his actions. But if I have to do it for four years, too bad.
McCarthy: The Democrats have pushed the Florida Republican Supermajority, claiming that time during the 60 -day state session would be better spent for issues such as housing costs and soaring property insurance rates.
RASCOE: It was Reban McCarthy of the WFSU and Mawa Iqbal of Wbez member station. And Larry Kaplow of the NPR States team is still with us. Larry, two very different ends of the spectrum of Florida and Illinois. Is it typical?
Kaplow: This is really the case. In the south, you have Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, others do what Florida does. On the democratic side, like Illinois, you have Connecticut, Maryland, California, adopting extremely different democratic approaches. And as we have heard, the people of some of these states express themselves for themselves, were going to state the capitals and protest against the direction they want to see.
Rascoe: It's Larry Kaplow of NPR. Thank you so much.
Kaplow: Thank you.
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